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Messages - St8ofbass
Old enough to know better
What Evil Lurks
too many - right now? BGAT, I know, but I listen to it more than anything else just now. Apart from that... 'Out of Space', 'Mindfields', 'Diesel Power'
Fuck em, and their law
Read my biog....
Reading my biog
love it - shame the MP3 is sooo compressed and tinny.
not sure that lima would be into giving away tracks that would cost him!
and alot of the live stuff and fills are just ideas in progress, so if you listen closey to earlier fills they have turned up in official songs in some form or another (beats, bassline, keyboard line, sample- whatever). i'll bet arie can give you details on this...
oh, and you can call me mike if you want to!
ouch! point taken (althjough I'm sure I didn't tell you to "piss off" ... what I was trying to say, and perhaps not very effectively, is that artists shouldn't change for the sake of it, just to say they've moved on. Change can also be a retrogressive step. In whioch case, I'd rather a lot of bands woul;d just split up rather than walking that homogenisation treadmill.
However I still mantain that there is a movement forward with BGAT. The beats and song structure are closer to standard (punk) rock, the chorus b-line more like the Chili Peppers than anything the Prod have done before, the synth noises and vocal fx like nothing before. The immediate things like Keiths vox and the guitars are very FOTL, but, Keith's voice is limited so he'll nevr be able to offer much different.
If I have a criticism of BGAT, its in the fact that the song is so dense, so full of disperate sounds that much of the tension and dynamic has been lost. Which ironically, makes you focus more heavily on the immediate (vox, beats, guitars).
BGAT does herald a change, I still mantain that the changes between albums and first new single from the next album, hasn't been that major so far. The move has always been quite gradual. The biggest change usually ideological. The changes that Liam implements are always at a deeper level than the immediate (I also don't think that there's a massove differnce between Radioheads OK Computer and Kid A for that matter, the changes are all surface level)
What I reckon is that The Prodigy have a sound which is immediately them, and they shouldn't be attacked for that. Now, if they were just putting out track after track that sounds exactly like the last one (Oasis, Travis, Chemical Brothers, the list is a long one) then yes, I would agree that the Prod should be consigned to history books. And I for one would be happy if the next album never comes out.
But I'm still not sure what kind of change people are after on these boards!!! And whether it s just change for the sake of it.
Maybe this is a new topic.
But its still the Prodigy.. no one else.
And if BGAT is a bad record for a lot of you, perhaps the weakest link is the songwriter? Now there's a discussion point.
THANKS... and only fools generalise. All opinion is valid ofcourse. Professional critics spend years honing their craft, learning their subject and then finding the most effective way of expressing their opinions. Does this make their opinion any more or less valid? I would say 'often yes' and sometimes 'no', but then I'm a critic who spends his every working day, and many nights listening to music and theorising about it and so on... a bit like hiow a mechanic understands an engine better than a layman. Both can do the job, but one has dedicated his life to the art of the mechanic.
But there is one thing I would have to disagree on... all critics aren't wankers. some don;t deserve that kind of praise. the NME's Tedd Kessler on the other hand is one of the few journalists at that paper who has the authiority to slag something off effectively. He's championed the Prodigy until now... so his point is valid bith from a critical and a fan perspective.
But I don't agree with him. I think BGAT is a fine single,
Its not a straight interview, but a 'think piece' about why the single has been censored by the BBC, while their own license ads use a song about heroin use (Perfect day).
I also have a dig at the media's knee jerk reactions, however I do offer my own criticism of the lyrics - which might not go down too well!
I think the feature will be online aswell. I'll let you know.
PS any thoughts on the new Primal Scream single?
Thought the Face piece was better because the journo at least tried to engage with the band on a deeper level. But again, it was pretty boring.
The best artoicle recently was the wddiong piece in NOW!
By the way Ping Pong Bitches were going to be on BGAT, but there wasn't enough room!
the cover to bgat has been designed by Jimmy Turrell and Richard Turvey. Richard is the art editor at 7 (i used to be managing editor at 7 - which is a UK dance mag, us version called Mixer - in case you've not heard of it). Jimmy is 7's main illustrator. 7 is published by DMC,who were responsible for Mixmag back in the days of the offending prod article. 7 was launched after they sold mixmag to emap. in many ways DMC (the publishers)were more responsible for the offensive angle that mixmag were taking at that time than the editors...
so... ironic that the DMC team are now designing for prodigy!!!
as ever the writer (in her usual style) takes the obvious, cynical view and forms half an opinion based on ignorance. bless them all at bbc6 or whatever its called, they should nevr forget that their editor is the same man who turned Melody maker into the toilet paper it was at the end... and what he knows about music can be written on a stamp... although he was always able to seem knowledgable by being cynical about everything... hey i see a pattern here.
bgat isn't the first song to have a drug reference in it. people tend to forget about the beatkes, lou reed, chili peppers etc.