[thomas]

I'm glad that Jim Davies is returnin to the prodigy. Their last live shows were a bit ruined cos of the female guitarist. She looked anxious and you couldn't hear any live guitarsounds.

Hope we'll get back to gigs like on the electronic punks vid.

[juGe]

Yeah.. that's great but I think that Gizz Butt is still the greatest live guitarist ever toured with the Prodigy. Shame that he can't be with the band anymore :/

Jim is great, but Gizz just have the right punk attitude and he can do killer stuff with his guitar too..

[Ekko]

Oh yeah, one thing I noticed as well, the new guitar-girlie was way too quiet if you ask me. I went to the Bizarre-festival and was really surprised by the rather unpalatable soundmixing, Ally was as nearly silent, Kieron wasn't balanced well too, I don't know if the band gigs with their own mixing people (-at least I know Liam has his one man for loading keyboard-,synthie-&sampler-sounds-), but it was a mess.
Not half as audible as Rockwave (which was mixed very very good, imho).

Maybe Jim will take it back by checking his sound himself.
Who knows?

Also, I really hoped that and it came true: They'll change the Album-title to something else than AONO. Nice, cos I didn't like that one much...

[techno4yourhead]

Huh?  I've been to loads of Prodigy gigs and you can't ever hear the guitarist, they are merely a visual part of the live act.  Same with the drummer, yeh you see him play drums (pointlessly) but they aint miked up or anythin, think about it if they were it would sound like total shite, there would be stray cymbal crashes, hi-hats and snare drums all over the place.  You see a drummer but do you hear him, no you don't for the simple reason that he is there as a visual aid.  Why add crappy feeble live drum sounds to the heaviest beats around?  Exactly YOU DON'T.  

[ChemicaL_OnE]

Well, my dear techno4yourhead - somewhere in the parallel universe you do have a point. Rock & Roll is also a fake, right?

C'mon, get real.

[ChemicaL_OnE]

Ah yes, one more thing: YOU CANT HEAR THE GUITARIST? Tell me, techno4yourhead, were you heavily sedated when you wrote those lines? If you were, then I can forget what I read. If you were'nt on any narcotics then please stop imagining and halucinating that you were on "loads of prodigy gigs" and didnt hear the guitarist. Who cut off your ears? I also have "loads" of video's, live performances and I can quite clearly the guitar so I dont what are you on about. IE. Their Law, Break & Enter, Firestarter... (get it?)

[Arie]

During there Lowlands gig last year you could defenitely not hear any guitars at all. I wonder if Ally play-backed ;) I think they didn't set up the equipment properly... or so I hope!

[antz]

I've got the Lowlands & Pukkelpop gigs and you can quite clearly hear the live drums but the live guitar "Im not too sure about"??

[Ekko]

Okay, let me get this straight lads, you can definitely hear both instruments.
Really. Or at least I can.
Just the mixing is crap from time to time.
And why should they add a drummer just for the visuals??
I don't believe the guys think we are a bunch of silly idjuts without ears. We don't just have a stomach to get some bassvibes back.
Anyone who went to Bizarre might have noticed, that the mainstage was a flat landscape, but there were two big towers and one big building in front of the stage - and in between there was the crowd.
They might have lowered the drumsound for a reason.
The pure sound of a drumkit is quite sharp and when reflected it sounds like a cascade of snares to you, and since there were no delayed speakers at the side (-the only solution to make the later part of the crowd get the same timed drumhits as the frontpart-), they turned it down a tad.

It isn't always that easy as it seems, put a speaker here and some there and it rocks.

Besides, I think the drummer does not play additional percussion, he just plays snare and Bd, for it would be way too exhausting to follow Liams hihat-figures...

[techno4yourhead]

Yeh I mean the guitarists do play cos u can always hear them on live recordings or video, but at the actual gigs you can't hear the guitars through the 40 million megatonnes of bass that The Prodigy pump out, which isn't a bad thing by any means.  I think if the live instruments (guitar and drums) were turned up loud enough to match Liams concussive volume they would just feedback to hell anyway.  

[robo65uk]

This topic really interests me. From listening to live recordings and watching live videos I have always wondered how loud the instruments Prodigy play are at their gigs. Quite often the instruments do seem really quiet. The drums for funky shit and breathe at brixton 97 seem almost inaudible. I reckon it's probably quite cool like that, coz it must be the really heavy, hard and intense beats that rock the crowd but what if the instruments were just as loud? From what I have heard and watched (I haven't actually been to a Prodigy gig) Prodigy gigs sound amazing but how do they compare to really heavy and fast bands like slipknot? Do the instruments give them an edge over Prodigy? I'd love to think they didn't but I have my doubts. I haven't actually seen them play but I know their Slipknot's gigs are really well respected. Someone please assure me that Prodigy is better and give me their views on how loud Prodigy should play their instruments live.

[techno4yourhead]

The Prodigy are the loudest thing on earth, even louder than Leftfield.

They've got a lot of BIG subs.

[Ekko]

That's true, Prodge are very loud, live and on CD.
To Robo65uk:
Hard to say. The volume is not the bands thing, it depends on the audio-setup and the man mixing it.
If you make it loud, you loose dynamic (which isn't that important at a live-gig) but you also sort of 'mud' it all together. I think Prodge is well balanced.
DOn't know if SLipknot is louder, it depends.
Loudness = VOlume of the Instruments, mixing, size of the area + buildings around, things that absorb the sound and some other stuff.
And every band mixes their sound differently, some have delay-traps (that kill off the reflected soundwaves which make you feel the sound is delayed and wrong), some don't.

For the different mixing of the instruments: (f-shit drums) see my last posting

[techno4yourhead]

I saw them play in daylight once and you could actually see the ground moving.  Which is quite impressive.  Also it is pretty much impossible to breathe if you are anywhere in line with the sound system.  

[Ekko]

I saw them play in daylight once and you could actually see the ground moving.