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General discussion => The Prodigy releases => Topic started by: dessie on June 14, 2002, 12:16:42 PM

Title: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: dessie on June 14, 2002, 12:16:42 PM
http://www.bigbabysmallturkey.com/bgatchuckd.html

download the mp3....

Just makes me think what could have been achieved with this track...so much better without keith and the firestarter riff.
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: DJ Slow on June 15, 2002, 01:38:07 AM
Wow!!!!! That actually sounds amazing! Did you make that or is it from that Prodigy bootleg site I heard about? That also makes me wonder if Maxim would be better on lead vocals. Why does Liam never let Maxim do a full vocal? I know he's capable. His solo album was great.
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: Jericho77 on June 15, 2002, 01:11:22 AM
Very Good Where is more of thease?
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: dessie on June 15, 2002, 01:35:52 AM
I made that myself, I could have cleaned up the levels but I just wanted to give you folks an idea....I decent rapper would have been a much better choice....

It would have really been nice if maxim was on it, he would have been 10 times better on lead...
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: wolf eater on June 15, 2002, 02:22:01 PM
Sorry dude but that is just shit. I think liam would be better off with Flint
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: DJ Slow on June 15, 2002, 04:23:43 PM
There are some 'bootleg' recordings like the one posted here at www.base58.com . I'm currently trying to get hold of an intrumental of Maxim's 'My Web' so I can take the vocals out and put them on BGAT instrumental (to extract vocals from a tune you need the original and the instrumental. If anyone wants to know exactly how to do it, just say).
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: kenzie on June 15, 2002, 05:55:59 PM

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Sorry dude but that is just shit. I think liam would be better off with Flint

ditto
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: DJ Slow on June 15, 2002, 11:51:51 PM
Nah, the instumental is clearly more hip-hop. Keith has only sung on the more punk tracks before (Serial Thrilla, Firestarter, Fuel My Fire, etc) whearas Maxim has always done the more hip-hop tracks (Poison, Mindfields, and the stuff on his solo of course). Just spinning Maxims Killing Culture over the BGAT instrumental makes it sound amazing. It just goes to show what a difference the vox can make.
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: fj on June 17, 2002, 05:05:38 AM

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If anyone wants to know exactly how to do it, just say).

*puts his hand up*
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: Zed on June 17, 2002, 11:41:52 AM
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to extract vocals from a tune you need the original and the instrumental
wow, never heard about that, lol... it's sad that no one said it to me year ago, i could do a great remix, something like carmen queasy remix...
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: philchill_aiii on June 17, 2002, 12:43:02 PM

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to extract vocals from a tune you need the original and the instrumental. If anyone wants to know exactly how to do it, just say).

Yeah, go on then  ;D
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: DJ Slow on June 17, 2002, 03:57:22 PM
Ok here's what you do:

You need an instrumental and vocal version of the same song. The two versions have to be IDENTICAL apart from the vocals or it won't work. Rip them onto your hard drive as wav files. If you have mp3's you can convert them to wav with programs such as musicmatch jukebox. What you then do is invert the phase of the instrumental. What this does is make the waveform of the song the opposite of what it was. You can probably do this in Wabelab or Soundforge, etc. You then play the intrumental at the same time as the vocal version. Because the two waveforms are exactly opposite they cancel each other out, EXCEPT for the differences between them, i.e. the vocals.

I've not managed to do it with someone elses song yet as they often start at slightly different places, meaning the waveforms don't cancel each other out. If you are patient you could probably move the waveform about until it's in the right place.

I know the technique works because I tried it with one of my own songs.
Title: Re: BGAT and chuck D
Post by: dessie on June 17, 2002, 04:46:51 PM
If anyone wants to make these kind of remixes ACID Pro is by far the best program.

You need the acapella and instrumental and a decent ear for music...also clever changing in pitch